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have to go to harold brown under carter and was a multilateralist, looked to use the pentagon as a place to negotiate arms reduction treaties. it was a different type of defense strategy, it was, by the way, controversial at the time. but the point to hagel, joy, is we're talking about someone who objectionable comments aside or not, someone who would be a change agent, and why won't the president fight for that? >> his only objectionable comment was his comment on the gay community. >> how long ago? >> bill clinton signed, you know -- >> clinton, who progressives like. >> it was a very different time in gay rights. >> and the issue on israel, what did he say, he's not a senator from israel? have we gotten to the point you can't say that? he's a republican, we're not going to agree with everything he says. >> he was against sanctions in iran. there's a real difference in iran policy, but look again, it's a symbolic fight between neoconservatives and people who hate neoconservatives and they are itching to fight each other and he's become the fight. obama made the decision, oba
business and expanding them on backs of black and brown people. and non-violent drug offense means, you know, you do some things that the -- amnesty international reportedly young white people are doing but are given a knock on the back. hand, don't do it again. we have to find a way to say let's forgive people. especially those that have not committed violent crimes. i have a brother that has been serving prison now for 23 years. accused of a violent crime. we think he is innocent but we understand the separation between those who have been accused of violent crimes and those that have done things not worthy of the kind of disproportionate penalty that they receive at the hands of the justice system. >> i want to thank you both. not only for sharing ideas but sharing your life experience which is difficult but vital. thank you for being here, john. >> thank you. >> singer/songe eersinger/songe forte. after the break she may still be on vacation on beapluto. we are bringing you the finer most of 2012 on "now." [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind.
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